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[admin]

Since Gman doesn't seem to be able to handle it, and no disrespect intended, he has a lot on his plate right now, I know several other LEO's that I might ask to join.  We are NOT going to let this forum go nil.

Comments are welcome.

[CDJ]

I wish gman the best.  I'm sure he is confident enough to have someone else contribute right alone with him.  Meaning when he comes back.

[mike]

I wish gman the best.  I'm sure he is confident enough to have someone else contribute right alone with him.  Meaning when he comes back.

not to be ugly, but I get at least curious when cops suddenly get real busy. As a rule, that does not bode well for weedy people.

It is a sad commentary, but the plain fact is, I view 'law enforcement' as the single largest threat to my security and well being.

Thugs, muggers, robbers, killers, fraud artists-- none of these hold a candle in terms of outright likelihood of predation to cops. Even Unc and his grubby little inlaws, even the whores in black robes are powerless when there are honest peace officers.

And when the peace officers become just enablers for the scum found in government, 'enforcers' for whatever abominations are handed down from on high?

We're done.
Mike Kemp

[CDJ]

I'll have to take some umbrage with the first sentence only, Mike:

not to be ugly, but I get at least curious when cops suddenly get real busy.

Think of gman's family matters posted in here, please.

I spose you are entitled to it all, but I'm talkin about serious family matters.  In lite of that, I see the one part as ugly.

[admin]

What I meant by my post was Gman has recently lost his father, and is now taking care of his aging mother. I meant nothing more. That's what I meant by "he has a lot on his plate". He is still a human being, with life's problems like the rest of us, regardless of whether he wears a badge for his job or not.

This has all happened SINCE he agreed to participate on this board. I personally know Gman to be a man of his word, and not a judgmental individual. Life sometimes deals people some hard blows, and priorities have to be set. I'm sure you all can understand that. I know for a fact there is no internet at his mother's house, not that he would be interested while there anyway.

It's not a reflection on his person at all. He lost his wife mere months ago, and now his father, and he's taking care of his aging mother, all the while trying to make a living. Please, give him a break on the LEO thing. I would appreciate it.

[mike]

I may have missed something, but I was of the impression that the new demands on time were related to a work issue. If you read that first line, you will see that. That is the point of my post-- cops suddenly getting busy for non-personal reasons.

And.... frankly.... I would not work in a profession where I was ashamed of my fellow-- engineers, for instance. I would not work in a profession where merely naming it caused folks to be suspicious of me.

And I spent ten years as caretaker for my terminally ill mother, and subsequently my grandparents. I know the drill.

Engineers do not screw up and then intimidate witnesses into silence. Engineers screw up, everybody sees it and everybody knows. And other engineers generally don't have a problem pointing out the stupidity of whoever screwed up.

And these screw-ups serve as object lessons about how not to screw up again.

So... sentiments expressed stand. Take my first sentence as a stand alone, not related to Gman-- when cops aside from personal business suddenly get busy, I get worried.

Sorry for not knowing all the facts. But you can take it for fact that a cop has to really show me something before I can view him as anything but what they claim to be-- enforcers-- the king's men. This is their own view. I'm just taking them at their word.

Amendment 4 - Search and Seizure. Ratified 12/15/1791.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

I don't see the role of the enforcer-- searching out people to arrest-- in there.

Mike Kemp
 

[reclusive]

Admin wrote: "Because I know that very very very few have been on both sides of the fence. What I mean by that is have been a patriot, AND a peace office, or if you MUST 'law enforcement officer'."

Well now, only two sides?  You're forgetting me admin, I've been on that third side.................behind
the bars too and because of that I feel one helluva lot more fortunate than most because I've got insight to all sides.   

[admin]

Well, yeah, there is a third side, and that is behind bars. But I think you miss my point. I was saying that there are very few who wear the uniform of law enforcement, and are patriots AT the same time. Very few. It's almost an impossibility, since there are no 'peace officers' any longer.

[reclusive]

Hahahahaha, "No!" I didn't miss your point, was jes' messin' with ya and will continue to feel an advantage of having personal experience with all three sides.   You know that to me opinions not based upon personal experience don't hunt too well in these woods.  LMAO

[mike]

Ah ain't nevah been no 'peace ossifer'. However I have been both patriot and 'behind bars'.

Two out of three ain't bad.
 
Mike

[admin]

Well, then you may be just the man to take his place. I know you're not a peace officer, but you have had your day in court, and know how lawyers are, you know the law.

Naaa. On second thought, I don't think you could be objective here.  Sorry.