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[admin]

The U.S.-led coalition and the Afghan government are launching an initiative to persuade Taliban insurgents to lay down their weapons, offering jobs and protection to the militants who choose to abandon their fight.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,577426,00.html

Reckon it'll work?

I could stop this chit in just a few years.  Here's how:

Pull every plane, tank, ship, weapon, and person out of EVERY country they are currently in. Bring them home, and station active duty personnel around the perimeter of the US. With all that stuff and people coming back, we could come close to doing it.

Do not allow ANYONE to enter this country, until they have been fully vetted, and that goes for even Canada and Great Britain. Just because you cross the Canadian border, doesn't mean you didn't originate from Saudi Arabia. Require a process and time period to become a citizen, and among those requirements is an ability to speak understandable ENGLISH. At least as well as New York or Massachusetts, although they are barely understandable.

Take the TRILLIONS we just saved by bringing everyone and everything home, and pay down the deficit and debt, and make for a better standard of living for those in this country. (But wait, it gets even better!)

Allow competing domestic currencies backed by gold and silver to compete with the FRN. (This is Constitutional by the way). And this way, it would be infused and acclimate, not be a shock or crash the system overnight. Let the people decide whether they want a paper $20 bill backed by nothing, or they want to trade it for an ounce of silver, which is backed by an ounce of silver. Of course there would be paper representations of the silver and gold, payable on demand, so it wouldn't be cumbersome.  It wouldn't be long before FRN's would not even be ACCEPTED in exchange for real money. Then the fed would be in a world of hurt.

Well, there's only so much gold and silver you say? Yes! That's the frikkin POINT. You can't print up gold and silver, but you sure can print up FRN's. How do they keep their value by the time you've printed 400 quadrillion trillion of them?

Your chit is worth two dollars today, and it's worth two dollars 5 years from now in gold and silver. Unless you make a bunch more of it, and offer it for less. You're not going to get MORE, unless you make a bunch less of it, and it is in demand. In other words, the money's worth the same, regardless of what your product is worth.  You can't print worthless fiat money and make everyone rich. You can only make the rich richer, and the poor poorer, until none of it is worth anything. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. I certainly hope not.

Yep, I could put us back on the right track within the two terms I'd be president. Except I'd have to be DICTATOR, not president. As president, I'd have to convince congress and the courts to go along. Wouldn't happen. Another pipe dream.

So, we're back to SQUARE ONE again!!

EDIT:Forgot to post link to original story.

[Gunrunner]

I persoanlly know where there are gold deposits in this country that would if properly mined and processed they could refil fort knox several times over. the wealth of natural resources in this country have been denied to the general public since the gold act. Just about naywhere a major dep[osit of valuable miners is found has been put under the protection of the national park service, national forrest service, the federal park system, beaureau , beaure of reclaimation, beaureau of land management or controlled by major corporations. read the 1872 mining law if you want a surprize and compare it to what is current law.

 
gold ore pays to mine it if it has six ounces per ton in the assay. I personally know and have seen with my own eyes places that have huge deposites of gold running in the hundres of pounds per ton.

The Placer minning opperation in glamis California, recovers gold dropped by the melting glaciers from alaska and any deposits desturbed by those glaceries located in this country. The mioning opperation at glamis move millions of pounds of what is called over burden ( sand and gravels deposited over what the glaciers left in place as they melted). gold is one of the seven metal of the platinum group and one of the heaviest. It will get under huge boulders and push them up because it huggs the bed rock.

Gold is in fact simple to recover, finding it is the hard part. Making raw gold into pure Gold is easier than finding the gold. Silver is easier than gold to purify and platinium is more difficult that the others. rodioum, irridium. Osminium and lead are the rest if the group. I can walk to a major lead deposit and know of locations for the others.

Death vaslley is not called death valley because of the heat althoigh the heat is a part of it. It gets so hot in death valley that the heat changes the ciinibar (Mercury ore) into mercury gas which is a deadly poisonous gas. Just breathing the air in death valley when the temperature is high can kill you. I know of other cinibar deposits. I know of a mountain in Nevads that has such a high copper content in it the mountain can not be drilled to blast the ore out. It is like trying to drill through the armour of an abrams tank with a pencil. 

I physicallyu know where the famous treasure of coronado is located and I can not touch it legally.

I read an article written by some moron historian that claimed coronado was never in this area. I live in the area where coronado came up the colorado river by boat and started his search for the seven cities of gold in the aztec legend. the remains of one of his boats is located in the cibola wild life refuge. coronado worked this are for gold and silver between the years of the 1530s to the 1550s, using the local indians as slave labor. He rook allot of the easy to recover gold and silver and in 20 years of collecting millions of dollars a day he only got one wagon load shipped out and that boat sunk off the california coast.

I know where there is silver deposits beyond belief for thier purity. that silver deposit runs from nevada to mexico city. One area of that deposit minnined by coronadop was mined using a 12 foot square shaft. he did not want to contaminate the raw silver with any rock so he just took out the center of the vein. I have been in another mine where the vein was two feet wide of nearly pure silver.  We actually have more raw gold in this country than in the famous mines of south africa and I know where to find diamonds as well.

Government regulations is the problem. they control the acces and we cant get it.


I have physically held these high grade ores in my hand and been to many of the locations I speak of. I have had the prospecting bug since I was 13 years old, my dad was a hard riock miner. I can teach people various ways to recover and process precious metals, I have done it.

[cowboy]

Take the TRILLIONS we just saved by bringing everyone and everything home, and pay down the deficit and debt

well, they aint going to do that because it isn't profitable for the corporations!
there is way too much money in war! that's why we don't start wars in parts of africa! there isn't anything to gain from it

[admin]

Cowboy, I don't know of a SINGLE war we were justified in being involved in since WWII. And I know we haven't DECLARED war on anyone since then. Think of all the money we could have saved, and put to good use, by minding our own business and not trying to rule the world. Or step into every conflict and escalate it to severe loss of life and extreme hardship on our own economy.

There are times when war is justified. I just haven't seen it since WWII.

[CDJ]

That skirmish in Grenada was OK with me.  Americans were in peril at the hands of the Cuban's.

My source is just my memory from what the public was told.

CDJ

[admin]

That skirmish in Grenada was OK with me.  Americans were in peril at the hands of the Cuban's.

My source is just my memory from what the public was told.

CDJ

Yeah, I hear ya. But according to my philosophy, we wouldn't have been there in the first place. You send some troops somewhere, and they get their azz in a fix, so you have to send some more troops on a rescue mission. I don't mind the rescue mission, but I'm saying the first one caused the second one.

[CDJ]

I don't mind the rescue mission, but I'm saying the first one caused the second one.

Now that part of it you hit on the head! The people that call the shots with military action seem to always try to do too much with too little, and un-necessary casualties occur.

They ought to go in to flatten whoever it is from the get go!

CDJ

[cowboy]

Cowboy, I don't know of a SINGLE war we were justified

never said there was bro, I aint even sure about WWI or WWII either since
the governments were financing both sides or so it is rumored! guarantee the
soldiers have different opinions on justification that the gov or public !

[admin]

I aint even sure about WWI or WWII either

Yes, I know the arguments. The attack on Pearl Harbor in my book at least, could certainly have been prevented, or headed off. However, we WERE attacked, and legal Constitutional war was declared by congress. That's the distinction I'm making from every conflict since then. I am not saying it's right, or even that TPTB did not stand by and do nothing in the face of a known immanent threat. I'm just saying there is a distinction between being attacked and declaring war, vs. invading with no declaration of war.

The latter makes me sick.

[cowboy]

I agree bro, it makes me sick as well especially knowing we are supposed to be sovereign!